Project Alberta

There have been a few attempts to change Alberta's flag. Here are a few:


http://www.albertarepublicans.com/flag.htm

I like this, but it should be altered to be an Albertan, rather than a Western Canadian, flag.


http://therebelalbertan.blogspot.com/20 ... untry.html

This is the Blue Alberta Ensign. I don't like this, because it is a colonial flag. Being colonized by Great Britain is as appetizing as being colonized by Canada: they both suck. Artistically, there is a redundancy with the St. George cross and the Union Jack representing the same damn thing.

Here's my attempt. As the AlbertaRepublican.org flag looks at Alberta (and the West) from the South, I look at Alberta from the East. The blue (official color of Alberta) is the sky, which is interrupted with white mountains. The gold (also an official color of Alberta) represents the golden fields of wheat. Essentially, it is an idealized form of Alberta's original coat of arms, without the green hills or white prairie.


I would like to add a Wild Rose, but it really doesn't match the colors. I also noticed that if you have three horizontal stripes (blue, white and gold), it looks very similar to a VISA symbol. It could also symbolize Alberta being open for business!

While it's fun to play around with flag designs, the best approach would be to have a flag design competition open to Albertans with a sizable financial prize for the best proposal. This would advertise independence and bring in new recruits.

Prior to independence why not display old glory's Spirit of 76 flag? This will tick off Ottawa and every dirt bag left wing extremist.

These flags were on FD.









To see original creator and dialog:
http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewt ... sc&start=0

I like the top one most guys.

Me too... sort of a Alberta/BC cross.

Because we are Albertans, not Americans?

Left wing extremists are welcome in an Albertan independence movement. And I'm as pro-capitalist as you can get.

We are not BC.



Interesting, although I don't like the St. George Cross and I wonder why the continual reference to the Big Dipper.



Terrible. Who was the jackass who thinks Alberta has maple trees?



Terrible. Who was the jackass who thinks Alberta has maple trees?

Take the sun off - and then what do you think?

If at a future date BC was to join, we then can add the sun - I like it.

We aren't British. Artistically, why have two separate representations of Great Britain?

And why celebrate the colonialism that has screwed Alberta? Alberta has been screwed since 1905, and it was the House of Lords in England that passed the Canadian government's request to bring Alberta into Confederation as a second-class citizen. Clifford Sifton, responsible for a lot of the immigration in Alberta (BTW, non-British immigration), quit the Laurier cabinet over that.

I see no reason not the keep the current provincial flag.

If we do change it, I would think the point would be to make something genuinely Albertan, and not refer to the English.

Incidentally, why is the Cross of St. George on our flag, and not the full Union Jack?

This blog tells me I should have clicked on JackisBack's links some time ago. It is good to be amongst Albertans, soon to be free of Ottawa Albertans that is.

To answer Sylvius the Mad's question, all I know is that the Cross of St. George was the official standard of the Hudson's Bay Company. For that reason alone I would have no problem getting rid of it. I have no qualms with St. George himself.

Proposals of all kinds have been suggested for a new flag for a soon to be new nation. If we are going to make something distinct, what should be the dominant feature of it? Do we parallel the symbols in the provincial crest? Use just the mountain bit? What do we want the flag to say about Alberta and Albertans?

Once we get closer to answering these questions, we ought to find it a lot easier (one hopes) to come up with a pleasing and appropriate design.

If we can find some common ground even in this forum on elements of the standard, we are off to a good start.

Welcome Marcus.

There is so much symbolism in flags that it becomes really hard to create one with the appropriate message. The St. George's cross or the other crosses that make of the union jack all mean something - in the one example, what does the yellow X mean – NOTHING, but it could have a greater meaning that I’m (we’re) unaware of. Can we just make our own meaning?

St. George refers to England. The Union Jack is comprised of parts that take into account the United Kingdom - including Ireland and Scotland. The St. George Cross refers to England. The white background of the diagonal cross refers to Scotland. The red diagonal cross refers to Ireland.

How is the history British? That isn't our founding heritage.

Alberta was founded by a lot of Eastern Europeans. There is a reason Edmonton is called "The Chuk." There is a reason that the U of C has a Gaelic motto.

Prior to that, yes, Alberta was part of the NWT. But prior to all that, it belonged to the Commonwealth of Virginia (the original Charter granted the northern border of Virginia north at a 45 degree angle West).

Again, why celebrate the nation that assented to the unfair entry of Alberta into Canada?

I guess we could.

I see that there is disagreement amongst some as to whether we should retain any British symbolism in a new flag. I am not of British descent rather one of those Eastern European types. Not a Uke though.

You can come up with a symbol or any kind, and invest it with meaning. I am just wondering what kind of symbol we can use that will mean Alberta.

Of course it will be very expensive to change all the logos presently in use, and that could be a mitigating factor in retaining for the most part our present symbolism. This might change in time.

A simple test. What is the first thing that pops into your mind when you hear Alberta?

When I think of Alberta, I think of the Rocky Mountains first.

And the designing adventure continues.......

The Hudson's Bay Company connection makes me really like the cross of St. George.

I do agree that adding design elements without meaning really hurts the flag. Each part of the flag should mean something. That's my biggest complaint about the current provincial flag; I don't know what the blue field signifies.